Various Anime rants
Mar. 31st, 2003 11:45 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
First, and appology/justification rant that I sent to Sam. I was rather publicly rude to him on the list and I feel horrible.
I'm sorry. It's an argument that's been brewing for a
while and you provided a target for a lot of
frustration. I know a lot of people that feel that
tier taste in Anime is better than everyone elses and
make a point of saying so publicly, often without
having even seen many of the shows in question. They
also tend to do this with arguments like "I don't like
that stuff" or "It's cutsey girly crap", and nothing
else. Perhaps you can see now where I'm coming from.
I don't want people that I consider to be friends to
do the same things that I dislike in others,
especially when I know they are capable of making
better arguments.
I didn't honestly intend it to be public, I actually
forgot that it would reply to the whole list and I
appologize.
I understand that some people don't appreciate the
cuter, fluffier genre of anime, but in this case, that
seemed to be what the group in generl wanted. The
shows that were being suggested are all "good anime
that's more difficult to normally access" and I know
one for certain that does give you things to
contemplate by the end. I don't want to detail
because you haven't seen them and - especially in the
case of Tenshi ni Narumon - spoilers are bad. In all
honesty the japanese don't make many shows with
absolutely no plot or "things to think about" in them.
They may not all throw it at you from the begining -
look at Utena (if you saw it last year) - which began
with pretty much fluff and ended up as one of the most
psychologically interesting shows I've ever seen. So,
in short, don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
I appologize once more for the public attack. It was
inappropriate (though the initial attack seemed
similarly so) and it won't hapen again from me.
Then my anime recommendations/reviews based on what the PHS anime club is thinking about watching.
I agree with Nikki's selections and having seen all the way through 2 out of three I can give more detail into their plot...
CLAMP 学園探偵団 (CLAMP Campus Detectives)
This show follows the actual future leader of CLAMP campus (not the wierd old guy in the X TV show) and his two best friends, about 10 years before they were helping the Dragons of Heaven recover from trauma. Nokuru, Suoh, and Akira are the student council for the CLAMP Campus Elementary division and the general plot is that they run around the campus solving mysteries and having adventures. The final arc of the show gets much darker and more serious, thogh nothing on the verge of X. The show is well animated in early CLAMP style with music composed and performed by Ali Project (famous of late for doing much of the music for "Noir")
フルーツバスケット (Fruits Basket)
Tohru is your normal high school girl (we've all head this before), through tragic circumstances and a stroke of luck she ends up living with one of her classmates and his uncle. His family just happens to be cursed in a very unique way. The show is more focused on character development and humor than on a coherent "plot", but by the end it pulls together a cast of diverse characters into a beautiful, painful final arc. The story is one of love and perserverence. Tohru is a wonderful female character, very japanese.
ジャングルはいつもハレのちグウ! (The Jungle was fine and then came Guu - aka Trippy Trippy Jungle)
Very, very wierd. Definitely building for a nifty plot, but I've only seen 5 episodes.
[personal recomendation]
天使になるもん (I'm Gonna Be an Angel!)
Yuusuke has just been left by his parents to finish High School. Then he finds a blonde girl in the park. Noelle (the girl) comes to his school and starts claiming she want's to marry him. (No, this isn't Ranma 1/2) Next thing Yuusuke knows, her entire wierd family has taken over his house and Noelle is trying to become an Angel. Now, this may sound like utter fluff that could be over in an episode, but Noelle's actions are being recorded in the Book of Chaos by the mysperious Mikael, who seems to want her to /really/ become and Angel! Why? What happened to Noelle? Why does her scary aunt want her to stay away from Yuusuke? Who are the mysterious villains that keep attacking Noelle? And how the heck does she keep being so bouncy in spite of it all?
This show is happiness and genki in a box. And then it's trauma and contemplation in a box... the first half is Excel-saga up a notch and the second in Utena toned down, without sex. Warnings: Minor shounen-ai (gay) subtext in second half, genki, happy, wierd.
Now that all that is over with I have to go eat lunch. *waves*
美少年: ミカエル様、ラハエル様、あや様、シュウ様
Bishonen: Mikael, Raphael, Aya (Weiss), Shu (Scwartz)
美少女: ノエル、ウテナ
Bishoujo: Noelle and Utena
I'm sorry. It's an argument that's been brewing for a
while and you provided a target for a lot of
frustration. I know a lot of people that feel that
tier taste in Anime is better than everyone elses and
make a point of saying so publicly, often without
having even seen many of the shows in question. They
also tend to do this with arguments like "I don't like
that stuff" or "It's cutsey girly crap", and nothing
else. Perhaps you can see now where I'm coming from.
I don't want people that I consider to be friends to
do the same things that I dislike in others,
especially when I know they are capable of making
better arguments.
I didn't honestly intend it to be public, I actually
forgot that it would reply to the whole list and I
appologize.
I understand that some people don't appreciate the
cuter, fluffier genre of anime, but in this case, that
seemed to be what the group in generl wanted. The
shows that were being suggested are all "good anime
that's more difficult to normally access" and I know
one for certain that does give you things to
contemplate by the end. I don't want to detail
because you haven't seen them and - especially in the
case of Tenshi ni Narumon - spoilers are bad. In all
honesty the japanese don't make many shows with
absolutely no plot or "things to think about" in them.
They may not all throw it at you from the begining -
look at Utena (if you saw it last year) - which began
with pretty much fluff and ended up as one of the most
psychologically interesting shows I've ever seen. So,
in short, don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
I appologize once more for the public attack. It was
inappropriate (though the initial attack seemed
similarly so) and it won't hapen again from me.
Then my anime recommendations/reviews based on what the PHS anime club is thinking about watching.
I agree with Nikki's selections and having seen all the way through 2 out of three I can give more detail into their plot...
CLAMP 学園探偵団 (CLAMP Campus Detectives)
This show follows the actual future leader of CLAMP campus (not the wierd old guy in the X TV show) and his two best friends, about 10 years before they were helping the Dragons of Heaven recover from trauma. Nokuru, Suoh, and Akira are the student council for the CLAMP Campus Elementary division and the general plot is that they run around the campus solving mysteries and having adventures. The final arc of the show gets much darker and more serious, thogh nothing on the verge of X. The show is well animated in early CLAMP style with music composed and performed by Ali Project (famous of late for doing much of the music for "Noir")
フルーツバスケット (Fruits Basket)
Tohru is your normal high school girl (we've all head this before), through tragic circumstances and a stroke of luck she ends up living with one of her classmates and his uncle. His family just happens to be cursed in a very unique way. The show is more focused on character development and humor than on a coherent "plot", but by the end it pulls together a cast of diverse characters into a beautiful, painful final arc. The story is one of love and perserverence. Tohru is a wonderful female character, very japanese.
ジャングルはいつもハレのちグウ! (The Jungle was fine and then came Guu - aka Trippy Trippy Jungle)
Very, very wierd. Definitely building for a nifty plot, but I've only seen 5 episodes.
[personal recomendation]
天使になるもん (I'm Gonna Be an Angel!)
Yuusuke has just been left by his parents to finish High School. Then he finds a blonde girl in the park. Noelle (the girl) comes to his school and starts claiming she want's to marry him. (No, this isn't Ranma 1/2) Next thing Yuusuke knows, her entire wierd family has taken over his house and Noelle is trying to become an Angel. Now, this may sound like utter fluff that could be over in an episode, but Noelle's actions are being recorded in the Book of Chaos by the mysperious Mikael, who seems to want her to /really/ become and Angel! Why? What happened to Noelle? Why does her scary aunt want her to stay away from Yuusuke? Who are the mysterious villains that keep attacking Noelle? And how the heck does she keep being so bouncy in spite of it all?
This show is happiness and genki in a box. And then it's trauma and contemplation in a box... the first half is Excel-saga up a notch and the second in Utena toned down, without sex. Warnings: Minor shounen-ai (gay) subtext in second half, genki, happy, wierd.
Now that all that is over with I have to go eat lunch. *waves*
美少年: ミカエル様、ラハエル様、あや様、シュウ様
Bishonen: Mikael, Raphael, Aya (Weiss), Shu (Scwartz)
美少女: ノエル、ウテナ
Bishoujo: Noelle and Utena